Monday, November 19, 2018

Subregion support for Helladic.Info


Until now the Mycenaean Atlas has not consistently supported the idea of subregions.  This situation arose from not thinking clearly about the problem from the beginning.  The general concept of regions (e.g. Crete, Dodecanese, Messenia, Argolid, etc.) has always been a part of the database.  Smaller divisions, however, have been mostly skipped.  

It would, for example, be desirable to be able to look at individual islands in the several groups on an island by island basis.  Up until now one could look at ‘Cyclades’ but not ‘Naxos’ or any other of the individual islands in that chain.  With the 1.002 DB release, however, this has changed.  Several of the major regions have been divided into fully supported subregions.  You can now look not just at ‘Crete’ but at its individual subregions such as ‘Kissamos’, ‘Ierapetra’, ‘Khydonia’, etc.

You can choose these subregions on the ‘Region’ drop-down.  Here is a picture of what the region choice drop down for Crete looks like now:

The new Controls Page with subregions listed.  Here for Crete.


As you can see the term ‘Crete’ (which functions as it always did by encompassing the whole) is followed by combined  choices for the individual subregions of the island: ‘Crete: Amari’, ‘Crete: Apokoronas’, etc.

Island chains are now handled in a similar manner.  You can now isolate the main islands in the following island chains:

Cyclades
Dodecanese
Ionian Islands
North-east Aegean (Lemnos, etc.)
Saronic Gulf (Aigina, Salamis, etc.)
Sporades (Skyros, etc.)

Aigina treated as a subregion and mapped by itself and (below)
in its own Chrono Report.



 The concept of named regions is somewhat problematic.  We really don't know the region names for the Greek mainland as they were known in the Bronze Age and their use (we start knowing actual region names from the time of Homer) fluctuates even in historical times.  Of the mainland regions only Anatolia has been divided into subregions on this website.

The benefit of this subregion support is that you can now prepare reports (elevation, chrono, etc.) for more tightly focused regions and I sincerely hope that this will be a benefit.


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Some remarks on the Mycenaean Atlas Project database:

Many researchers in the social sciences use some product like Microsoft's Excel to create a 'DB'.  This is fine; it's what is generally referred to as a 'flat file'.  That is, a single table representation of your data of interest.

The Mycenaean Atlas database, on the other hand, is a relational database with several tables that was built using MySQL.  Dumps of this DB are available but you need MySQL (or similar) and a knowledge of Structured Query Language (SQL) to run it.  Otherwise it doesn't make much sense to ask for it.  But If you'd like to have a copy of the Mycenaean Atlas database anyway then e-mail me and tell me about your project.  

And remember that useful .kml and/or .csv files can be generated directly from all the windows (including the new reports pages) of the website helladic.info   Try it out!   I'm also willing to generate custom .csv or .kml files from the atlas if you need something specific.

Wednesday, November 14, 2018

Finding Tsoukka (C1922)


I have been reading the very interesting dissertation by Dr. Catherine Parker about bronze age Arcadia and checking her list of sites against mine.  In the course of this I came across her discussion of the site of Tsoukka (C1922) which is in Arcadia's Pheneos valley.  Tsoukka is an MH site.  I positioned it somewhat informally at the small country crossroads here: 37.889404° N 22.293383° E, basing this on the large-scale map in Zavadil [2006], with an accuracy parameter of 'Unknown' and I confess that I didn't think too much more about it.  Then I came across Dr. Parker's discussion which tells us that the discovery of Tsoukka included apsidal houses.  Because I don't have access to the original discoverer's articles (Erath [1999] and Erath [2000]) I had not known about the houses.  

Apsidal houses always get my attention.   I have certain ... er ... hypotheses about such structures and this was too good to let go.  It became my number one priority to identify exactly where these houses are located.   The only clue I had was a photograph taken by Dr. Parker.  I reproduce it here:


Courtesy of Dr. Catherine Parker.  All rights reserved to creator.

Can we work with what we have?  I think so.  We're looking for a road or a footpath which is flanked by two poles.  Behind the poles is a tree.  The apsidal house (or its entrance) is in the foreground and marked by the several stones.

It's not much to go on.  Can we find such a combination of features?   Here's what the territory actually looks like:



In the above aerial photo from Google Earth we see the east end of the hill of Tsoukka along with the little rise at its foot (center with the feature marker).  The apsidal  houses are somewhere on this map among this interlace of country roads.

I began by assuming that the 'path' in Parker's photograph was really one of these roads and, thank heaven!, Google Street View is available for nearly all these roads.  I traversed the road coming in from the north: nothing.  I then tried the road running NE to SW.  This road is lined by a single file of telephone poles except for one place.  Here it is:






Can these be the same two poles that we see in Dr. Parker's photograph?  I tried to reproduce her view in Google Earth:


In the foreground of this picture we see some stones which look quite like those in Dr. Parker's photo .... and here's a better view of the famous tree behind the poles:




When we look back from the double poles in the direction from which Dr. Parker's picture was taken we see this:



The terrace on which the apsidal houses are located is here:





Here's what it looks like from directly above:





The 'x' marks the place from which Dr. Parker's picture was taken.

And another view:



In this picture I tried to recreate the exact angle of Dr. Parker's photograph with the blue line.  The place from which the  picture was taken would be at the tip of the white arrow by the apsidal houses.


Well, to wrap it all up, the Mycenaean Atlas Project DB now has a new location for Tsoukkas (C1922).  It is here:

     Decimal:   37.888726° N          22.290945° E
     DMS:       37° 53' 19.414" N     22° 17' 27.402" E     
     W3W: geared.braces.squarely
     UTM:       34 S   613515 m E   4194254 m N

     GGRS87:    349568 m E    4194558 m N


It will be a couple of days before I update the DB.  However, it should be corrected by 8/23/2018.

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Some remarks on the Mycenaean Atlas Project database:

Many researchers in the social sciences use some product like Microsoft's Excel to create a 'DB'.  This is fine; it's what is generally referred to as a 'flat file'.  That is, a single table representation of your data of interest.

The Mycenaean Atlas database, on the other hand, is a relational database with several tables that was built using MySQL.  Dumps of this DB are available but you need MySQL (or similar) and a knowledge of Structured Query Language (SQL) to run it.  Otherwise it doesn't make much sense to ask for it.  But If you'd like to have a copy of the Mycenaean Atlas database anyway then e-mail me and tell me about your project.  

And remember that useful .kml and/or .csv files can be generated directly from all the windows (including the new reports pages) of the website helladic.info   Try it out!   I'm also willing to generate custom .csv or .kml files from the atlas if you need something specific.


BIBLIO

Erath [2000]:  Gabriel Erath, "Neolithische und bronzezeitliche Keramik aus dem Becken von Pheneos in Arkadien", in F. BLAKOLMER (ed.), Österreichische Forschungen zur Ägäischen Bronzezeit 1998. Akten der Tagung am Institut für Klassische Archäologie der Universität Wien, 2.-3. Mai 1998 (2000), p. 111-118, esp. 114, fig. 6. 

Erath [1999]:  Gabriel Erath, "Archäologische Funde im Becken von Pheneos", in K. TAUSEND (ed.), Pheneos und Lousoi.  Untersuchungen zu Geschichte und Topographie Nordostarkadiens (1999), p. 199-237, Taf. 4, 5

Mazarakis-Ainian [2009]:  Alexander Mazarakis-Ainian, From Ruler's Dwellings to Temples; Architecture, Religion and Society in Early Iron Age Greece (1100-700 B.C.).  Paul Åströms Förlag. Jonsered, Sweden.  1997.

Parker [2008]: Catherine Parker, Arkadia in Transition: Exploring Late Bronze Age and Early Iron Age Human Landscapes. Ph.D. dissertation submitted to the University of Birmingham. Institute of Archaeology and Antiquity, School of Historical Studies.  The University of Birmingham, January 2008.

Philippa-Touchais et al. [2006]: Mesohelladika; La Grèce continentale au Bronze Moyen.  Actes du colloque international organisé par L'École Française d'Athènes en collaboration avec l'American School of Classical Studies at Athens et le Netherlands Institute in Athens, Athènes, 8-12 mars 2006.  Bulletin de Correspondance Hellénique Supplement no. 52.

Zavadil [2006]:   Michaela Zavadil, The Peloponnese in the Middle Bronze Age: An Overview', in Philippa-Touchais et al. [2006], pp. 151-163. 2006., p. 161.

Sunday, November 4, 2018

Principal Sites Control





The Mycenaean Atlas Project is happy to announce the new Principal Sites Control for the website Helladic.info
The sites currently supported are

  • Argos (Aspis)
  • Ayia Triadha (Crete)
  • Chania (Crete)
  • Gla (Boeotia)
  • Kalamianos (Corinthia)
  • Kanakia (Salamis)
  • Knossos (Crete)
  • Kommos (Crete)
  • Lefkandi (Euboea)
  • Mallia (Crete)
  • Malthi-Dorion (Messenia)
  • Mideia (Argolid)
  • Mycenae (Argolid)
  • Nestor’s Palace (Messenia)
  • Nichoria (Messenia)
  • Orchomenos (Boeotia)
  • Pellana (Laconia)
  • Peristeria Tholos 1 (Messenia)
  • Petra (Pelasgiotis)
  • Phaistos (Crete)
  • Teichos Dymaion (Achaia)
  • Thebes (Boeotia)
  • Tiryns (Argolid)
  • Volos (Magnesia)
  • Vrokastro (Crete)
  • Xerokambi: Ayios Vasileios (Laconia)
  • Zakros (Crete)



  • The Principal Sites control allows the user to bring up the Place Key Report page with just a single click for the most significant sites in the Mycenaean/Minoan world. The control consists of a simple scrollable list in which the sites are listed in alphabetical order. 







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    The software for the Principal Sites Control was delivered today, November 4.  A new data base has also been released.  It contains some new sites and features.  New search files have been delivered.

    Your feedback is very valuable to me.  My e-mail address is: bobconsoli 'at' gmail.com

    Please follow me on Twitter: @squinchpix

    I would ask you to follow me on Google Plus but c'est la guerre.

    Friends don't let friends use Facebook and if you are using it please stop.

    Useful .kml and/or .csv files can be generated directly from all the windows (including the new reports pages) of the website helladic.info   Try it out!   I'm also willing to generate custom .csv or .kml files from the atlas if you need something specific.

    Most researchers in this field use some product like Microsoft's Excel to create a DB.  This is fine; it's what is generally referred to as a 'flat file' - a single table representation of your data of interest.

    The Mycenaean Atlas database, on the other hand, is a relational database with several tables.  It was built using MySQL.  I will make dumps of this DB available but you need MySQL (or similar) and a knowledge of Structured Query Language (SQL) to run it.  (I'm pretty sure that you can interface to my database from ArcGIS or QGIS).  

    Otherwise it doesn't make much sense to ask for it.  But If you'd like to have a copy of the Mycenaean Atlas database anyway then e-mail me (bobconsoli 'at' gmail.com) and tell me about your project.  I want to share the Database but just remember that it's a relational SQL DB.
  • Sunday, October 28, 2018

    Customized Bibliographies in the Mycenaean Atlas Project



    The Mycenaean Atlas Project is happy to announce the delivery of software that can support customized bibliographies.

    The bibliography for the Mycenaean Atlas Project now numbers more than 1000 items.  For a long time I have wanted to be able to present the bibliography online in a focused and analytical fashion.

    From the beginning it was possible to create a map that showed every location documented by specific scholars.  It was possible to create, for example, a map of the Mycenaean world which showed just those sites for which Simpson’s Mycenaean Greece was one of the sources.  At the present time one can draw such a map for any one of 40 different scholars.



    This is useful for tracking the actual coverage that the Mycenaean Atlas gives to any one of these prominent writers and these maps change as more and more of their sites are put into the Atlas.  Here, for example, is a map based on Emilia Banou's Beitrag zum Studium Lakoniens in der mykenischen Zeit from 1996.   These are all the sites for which her work is at least one of the supporting citations in the Mycenaean Atlas.




    There is more in the Bibliography than just those forty authors.  At a minimum it should be possible to produce customized bibliographies.  If a user chooses just to look at sites from Arcadia then it should be possible to produce a bibliography of just those writers who are cited in locations from Arcadia.   In other words, to produce a customized bibliography of Arcadia in the Mycenaean period.  And that goes for any other combination of choices.  A customized bibliography for ‘tholos’ and ‘LH’; or a customized bibliography just for ‘Forts’,  etc.

    This is now  possible with new software delivered to helladic.info.  In addition to the other reports that are generated from the report page such as ‘Chrono’ or ‘Elevation’ it is now possible to generate a bibliographic report limited to just those categories the user actually chose.



    If the user chose ‘Boeotia’ and ‘EHII’ from the control page then, on the report page, pressing ‘Biblio Report’ on the main report page will produce a new page that contains a bibliography of just those authors and sources in the DB who are cited in support of every Boeotian site of the EH II.





    A dedicated bibliography for 'Boeotia' in the 'EH II' looks like this:




    Your choices are listed in the parameter box at the top left.  Here the PERIOD: is EHII and the REGION: is Boeotia.

    The primary feature of this new page is the bibliography table.  This table has four columns, 'Author', 'Citation', 'Comment', and 'ISBN'.

    Author: This column displays the author name, if known.  If there is a link associated with the author's name then clicking that link will bring up a map with just the sites in 'Boeotia' in the 'EHII' that use that author as a supporting citation.

    Citation: This column displays the title and publisher (or journal information) of the work being cited.  If there is a link in this column then clicking that link will bring the user to the actual text of the work (.pdf or other doc) being cited.

    Comment: The comment field displays extra information, if any, about the work being cited.

    ISBN: This displays the ISBN number (or ASIN or DOI) of the work being cited.  This is included, when known, to prevent ambiguity.  The ISBN is still the best way to identify the exact edition of a book being cited.

    Here's a part of the biblio page for 'Attica':



    (You may need to click on this to enlarge it.)  Here there are ISBN numbers for Simpson and Hagel's Mycenaean Fortifications ... and Privitera's Principi, Pelasgi, e Pescatori because those books are not available online.  On the other hand Jeremy Rutter's "Evidence for a Mycenaean Tomb of the Late Helladic IIA period in the Athenian Agora" is online and the page provides a working link to it.  Clicking on that link brings up Dr. Rutter's article.

    And what about that first column which is headed 'Author'?  As mentioned above that entry might have a link and, if it does, clicking on that link brings up a new map with sites for which that author/work combination provide bibliographic support.  For example, when you click on Jeremy Rutter's name next to his article 'Evidence for a Mycenaean Tomb of the Late Helladic IIA Period in the Athenian Agora' from Hesperia you are taken to a new map page with just that site on it, in the Atlas, for which Dr. Rutter's article is cited in support.  It looks like this:



    Here's the new single citation source page.  Since you clicked on Dr. Rutter's name it brings up the single site in Attica which is in the DB and for which Dr. Rutter is one of the supporting sources.   In this particular case it turns out to be a grave in the Athenian agora (C1835).  In this way you can quickly track those sites for which specific authors/works are cited in support.

    At the top of this page the original choice criteria are repeated.  The Criterion Bar says "Source: Rutter [1975]    Number of sites: 1     Region: Attica"

    When you mouse over the Source the full citation will pop up.  It looks like this:



    Here you can see the black background popup box with the full name of Dr. Rutter's article and its place of publication, namely in Hesperia.

    Ceramic Horizon (Period) criteria are handled in a similar fashion.  Here, for example, is a map derived from Simpson's 1959 article on 'Nemesis'.  One selection criterion was 'LH'.  For our search purposes the choice of 'LH' means every subdivision of that period: LHI, LHII, LHIII, etc.  You can see that if you mouse over the 'Ceramic Horizon: LH' string:





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    The Dynamic Bibliography Report is available to be used now.  That software was delivered in the last week.  A new data base to support dynamic bibliographies has also been released.

    Your feedback is very valuable to me.  My e-mail address is: bobconsoli 'at' gmail.com

    Please follow me on Twitter: @squinchpix

    I would ask you to follow me on Google Plus but c'est la guerre.

    Friends don't let friends use Facebook and if you are using it please stop.

    Useful .kml and/or .csv files can be generated directly from all the windows (including the new reports pages) of the website helladic.info   Try it out!   I'm also willing to generate custom .csv or .kml files from the atlas if you need something specific.


    Most researchers in this field use some product like Microsoft's Excel to create a DB.  This is fine; it's what is generally referred to as a 'flat file' - a single table representation of your data of interest.

    The Mycenaean Atlas database, on the other hand, is a relational database with several tables.  It was built using MySQL.  I will make dumps of this DB available but you need MySQL (or similar) and a knowledge of Structured Query Language (SQL) to run it.  (I'm pretty sure that you can interface to my database from ArcGIS or QGIS).  

    Otherwise it doesn't make much sense to ask for it.  But If you'd like to have a copy of the Mycenaean Atlas database anyway then e-mail me (bobconsoli 'at' gmail.com) and tell me about your project.  I want to share the Database but just remember that it's a relational SQL DB














    Monday, October 15, 2018

    Announcing the Neighbor Analysis Page for the helladic.info website



    The Mycenaean Atlas Project is happy to announce that the website helladic.info now supports nearest neighbor analysis for every site in the database.  This is the beginning of an effort to integrate all sites to their surrounding environments. 

    A dedicated neighbor page can be accessed from any Place Key Report page.  There is a new button, ‘Neighbor’, on the lower menu line of that page.  When that button is pressed a new neighbor page will appear based on your anchor site.  This page contains new graphs and a table based on analyzing the anchor site’s neighbors. 

    1. Neighbor Analysis Page


    To perform this analysis the software searches the database for sites within 1500 m., in any direction, of the anchor site.  The area covered is 3 km. square or 9 square km.  These neighbors are then displayed in the form of a sortable table that lists the  place key, name, type, elevation, and distance of the neighbor from the anchor site.
     
    2. Neighbor Chart.  Here for neighbors of C5443, Voni: Sochora,
    which is a town in the Pedhiadha of Crete.

    The neighbors are also displayed on a new map at the upper right.  This map shows only the neighbors and does not display features.

    3. Neighbors map for C5443, Voni Sochora.

    In addition the neighbors are displayed on two new charts.  The first is a bull’s eye chart which depicts the anchor site in the center and the neighbors in the form of concentric circles around it proportionate to their distance from the anchor site.  The bull’s eye chart highlights gaps or unusual distances between the anchor site and its neighbors.  Also it easily shows neighbor sites that are similar distances from the anchor site (no matter in which direction) because these similar-distance sites cluster on the bull’s eye chart.

    4. Bull's Eye chart for neighbors of Voni Sochors, C5443 (at center).


    The second chart is a vector graph that depicts each neighbor as a vector with distance and length proportional to its distance from the anchor site.  This chart is an abstract representation of the neighbor map on this page.  The vector chart, however, depicts distance and direction in a highly abstract way that can be taken in at a glance.  Each vector is labelled with the place key of the neighbor in question.  It will quickly show, for example, whether the anchor site is surrounded by neighbors or whether it is on one of the edges of a cluster of neighbors.


    5. Vector chart for C5443 Voni Sochora (at center)

    Scales have been drawn to make analysis easier.  These scales are useful in measuring distances from the anchor site to its neighbors.  The scales display tic marks at 100 m (1/10 km.) intervals.  The center value (aligned to the anchor site) is marked ‘0’.  Positive distances are marked at 1 km with the integer ‘1’ at ten tic marks to the left and also to the right.

    For both of these charts and for the map north is to the top.

    The user should bear some cautions in mind.  Neighbors are, of course, limited to whatever is in the database and this site cannot guarantee that the list of neighbors is exhaustive.

    The user should also be aware that at present the neighbors shown on the map and the graphs are from all time periods and may not have existed at the same time as the anchor site.  I'm working on making this more sophisticated.

    Also there are some areas for which this approach does not work very well.  Here is an example from the Athenian Agora (C1868) where there are so many sites that the graphs basically become unreadable:


    Enlarging these charts would not help.  The whole thing is just a smear.  There are also sites which have no neighbors at all or, at least, none as defined here.  Here, for example, is the neighbor page for Larisa on the Hermos (Aeolis) C1473:




    For many areas, however, this page should be a valuable aid for the analysis of Bronze Age sites.  Here's one more example, from one of the well known (and now disappearing) mounds (C319) at Lefki Kaldamou in Messenia:



    The graphs quickly and precisely show that these mounds are more or less evenly spaced and arranged in a nearly straight line.


    These charts are implemented using the HTML 5.0 canvas.  The canvas construct does not support links.  You can, however, link directly to any of these neighbor sites from the table on this page.

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    The neighbor page is available to be used now.  That software was delivered yesterday.  A new data base which adds about 60 new sites, mainly in Crete, will be released either today or tomorrow.

    Your feedback is very valuable to me.  My e-mail address is: bobconsoli 'at' gmail.com

    Please follow me on Twitter: @squinchpix

    I would ask you to follow me on Google Plus but c'est la guerre.

    Friends don't let friends use Facebook and if you are using it please stop.

    Most researchers in this field use some product like Microsoft's Excel to create a DB.  This is fine; it's what is generally referred to as a 'flat file' - a single table representation of your data of interest.

    The Mycenaean Atlas database, on the other hand, is a relational database with several tables that was built using MySQL.  I will make dumps of this DB available but you need MySQL (or similar) and a knowledge of Structured Query Language (SQL) to run it.  (I'm pretty sure that you can interface to my database from ArcGIS or QGIS).  

    Otherwise it doesn't make much sense to ask for it.  But If you'd like to have a copy of the Mycenaean Atlas database anyway then e-mail me (bobconsoli 'at' gmail.com) and tell me about your project.  

    And remember that useful .kml and/or .csv files can be generated directly from all the windows (including the new reports pages) of the website helladic.info   Try it out!   I'm also willing to generate custom .csv or .kml files from the atlas if you need something specific.


    Sunday, August 26, 2018

    Where is Arcadian Dhimitra: Troupes (C484)?




    It is said that photographs don't lie but they certainly can mumble.

    An example occurs in Syriopoulos' article on 'Windy Enispe'[1] that discusses the important Bronze Age site called 'Dhimitra'.   Syriopoulos tells us about the site and how it was discovered:

    “IN 1939, during road construction near the modern village Dimitra in the district of Gortynia in north-western Arcadia, digging works brought to light considerable prehistoric remains from the eastern slope of a small hill called Troupes (= 'holes') about 2 km. north-east of the village of Dimitra.'

     The remains passed unnoticed until 1942, when I chanced to visit the site and collected from the cutting of the hill-slope a considerable number of prehistoric sherds, the most remarkable of which I have briefly mentioned under 'Demetra village' in my (Prehistory of the Peloponnese).  R. Howell quotes the site in his recently published 'Survey of Eastern Arcadia in Prehistory' without adding any more information.

     Unfortunately, I did not manage to publish these finds earlier with a more detailed description and the relevant illustrations. But I have visited the site several times since I942 and collected more sherds and other finds, the most remarkable of which are described below. They all prove, in my opinion, a continuous and intensive inhabitation of the site from Neolithic to L.H. IIIC 2 times, when the settlement was deserted for ever.”

    I transliterated his title in parentheses and have suppressed his footnotes except for fn. 1 which I reproduce here:

    “1. The area of Dimitra, formerly Divritsa, is described in Frazer, Pausanias iv. 287-90, PW 70-5, GL iii. 276. The road, during whose construction the prehistoric finds came to light, branches off the main carriage road from Tripolis to Olympia at its 83rd kilometre in the village of Stavrodromi and leads through the villages of Tropaia, Vachlia, Dimitra, Kontovazaina, Voutsi, and Monastiraki, towards Koumani village and the carriage road from Pyrgos to Patras via Platanos. It has not yet been completed.”


    So.  A significant large settlement that existed throughout the Bronze Age in central Arcadia and situated about 1 km. north of the Ladon River.

    Where is it?

    The name of the site is 'Troupes' and 'Dhimitra' is the name of the modern town closest to it.  The general position of Dhimitra in Arcadia is shown in this map:



    Here we're looking at the NW quadrant of the Peloponnese; the lavender arrow points to Dhimitra.   If we zoom in on this area we can see the road being described by Syriopoulos in his footnote 1 which are indicated more or less roughly in the next map.  (Click on it to enlarge.)



    On this map I have labelled the names of the towns in Syriopoulos' footnote.  The sequence begins with Stavrodromi at the lower R and ends with Koumani at the upper L.  The last bit of the road from outside Monastiraki to Koumani is not very good; really a series of dirt roads and this may be the part that Syriopoulos thought was 'not yet ... completed.'.

    Now for Dhimitra itself.



    The modern town of Dhimitra is positioned at the lower L.  Measuring a path from that town to my proposed location for Troupes is just about 1890 m.  I admit that the starting point for this lavender line was somewhat arbitrarily chosen but Syriopoulos does not tells us where to begin measuring the 2 km. distance from town to site.

    In this post I have started with the answer.  With a high degree of confidence it can be said that the site of Troupes is at 37.786502° N, 21.932709° E.  How can this be justified?  

    The criteria for this site are as follows:
    1. Ca. 2 km. from modern Dhimitra.
    2. It is on the road between Stavrodromi and Koumani.
    3. It must be on or very close to the side of the road because it was discovered during road-building.

    In addition to these vague criteria there are two photographs that show the area around Troupes.  These are from Syriopoulos' article.

    The first shows the Ladon river valley taken from ... somewhere.



    Here I have labelled the gorge of the Ladon R. (tributary of the Alpheios).  Also I have indicated the facing ridge on the S which is Dariza.  The modern town of Dhimitra cannot really be seen but it's somewhere over the labelled ridge.

    In the next picture I reproduce that view in Google Earth:


    Being able to reproduce this view leads me to say that the photograph in Syriopoulos was taken from approximately 37.786022° N, 21.947296° E.  In this picture the red line is the road described in Syriopoulos' footnote 1.  The intermittent blue line is the position of the Ladon river itself.

    Syriopoulos labels this picture (a) as 'Troupes (or Damari) from north-east.'

    But it isn't.  

    The photo labels in his article have come adrift.  This caption which says 'Troupes' is actually meant for photograph (c) which is here:

    This is the original.  Here is a labelled version of it:


    Here we're looking roughly SW down the Ladon river valley in the direction of Dhimitra which we cannot see.  The main highway actually winds around the site of Troupes.  If we could figure out from where this picture was taken we would know where Troupes is located.  Perhaps it's possible to recreate this view in Google Earth?

    After a great deal of huffing and puffing I was able to do exactly that.     Here it is:



    Not too convincing?  That's what I mean when I say that photographs can stutter.  O.k., let's zoom in on the ridge in the LC:


    Now we have a photo almost identical to Syriopoulos' photo which was taken from about 37.790800° N, 21.932980° E. I suspect that Syriopoulos' original was taken with a moderate telephoto, perhaps 135 mm. focal length.

    And there it all is.  That wooded plateau feature in the center is Troupes.  In Syriopoulos' original there are many limestone outcrops visible and those have nearly disappeared in the overgrowth some 45 years later.  But when we look at this ridge from above those limestone features are still plainly visible:



    I have drawn yellow arrows that indicate extruding features.  Even though this east side of the ridge is greatly overgrown compared to when Syriopoulos' picture was taken its essential rocky nature is unchanged.

    Here's another photo of the site from above:



    Here's Syriopoulos' photo of it:



    And this is as close as I can get in Google Earth Street View:



    I think that Syriopoulos's photo was taken by following the branching road to the left (NW) and photographing the hill by facing more towards the NE.

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    Footnotes

    1. Syriopoulos [1973] 193.  

       In Howell [1970] p. 98, "During the construction of the public highway near the village of Dhimitra, a cutting was made through a prehistoric settlement."  

       In Simpson [1981] 88, 'D 19 Dhimitra: Troupes', "The small hill called Troupes lies about 2 k. northeast of Dhimitra, on the south slopes of Mt. Aphrodision, above the Ladon river valley.  During road construction a cutting was dug through a prehistoric settlement here, and Syriopoulos ... collected a large quantity of sherds from it, mainly from the eastern slope.  Most of this was Middle Helladic coarse ware, but a few sherds were Mycenaean of provincial type  ...   the LH IIIC claimed is not certain ..."   

       In Simpson and Dickinson [1979] 83, 'B 33 Dhimitra: Troupes': "The small hill called Troupes is c. 2 km. NE of Dhimitra, on the S slopes of Mt. Aphrodision.  During road construction a cutting was made through the prehistoric settlement here and many sherds were collected, ...  Most of this was MH coarse ware and provincial LH.  ..."  

       In Parker [2008] 217: "Finally,  near  the  village  of  Dhimitra  (62)  in  the  northwestern region of Arkadia, a substantial settlement dating from the Neolithic to the LBA was discovered when the current road was built (Syriopoulos 1973)."


    Bibliography

    Howell [1970]:   Howell, R., 'A Survey of Eastern Arcadia in Prehistory',  The Annual of the British School at Athens (65). November, 1970.  79-127.

    Parker [2008]:   Parker, Catherine Ruth, Arkadia in Transition: Exploring Late Bronze Age and Early Iron Age Human Landscapes. Ph.D. dissertation submitted to the University of Birmingham. Institute of Archaeology and Antiquity, School of Historical Studies.  The University of Birmingham, January 2008.

    Simpson and Dickinson [1979]:   Simpson, Richard Hope and O.T.P.K. Dickinson, A Gazetteer of Aegean Civilization in the Bronze Age,  I: The Mainland and the Islands, Paul Åströms Förlag, Goteborg. 1979.

    Simpson [1981]:   Simpson, Richard Hope, Mycenaean Greece. Park Ridge, New Jersey: Noyes Press, 1981.

    Syriopoulos [1973]: 'The Homeric 'Windy Enispe': A Prehistoric Settlement in North-Western Arcadia near the River Ladon', The Annual of the British School at Athens (68), pp. 193-205, 1973.

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